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#106 Norwood lad

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 10:22 AM

Yes exactly, believe it when you see it.

 

Here was the indicative plans for redevelopment.Looks like this new pop up might only be their for 6 months then. Ivan would be mad not to start this soon if new build flats on the triangle are going for £350-400k.

 

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 10:52 AM

Fascinating, so the whole scheme will get its heating and electricity via a Combined Heat and Power (CHP) plant in 35 Westow House which will definitely have an impact on how the scheme is phased and developed out. I wonder how it will work for a scheme of this size.   



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:30 AM

Zaha, Rogers and Chippo on 'stellar' Crystal Palace shortlist

25 February, 2014 | By Richard Waite

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A line-up of half a dozen of the UK’s biggest hitters, including three former Stirling Prize winners, has been shortlisted in the contest to resurrect Joseph Paxton’s Crystal Palace

David Chipperfield, Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners and an intriguing collaboration between Zaha Hadid Architects and Anish Kapoor have been named in the final six, alongside Grimshaw, Marks Barfield Architects and Haworth Tompkins.

Shortlist in full:

  • David Chipperfield Architects
  • Grimshaw
  • Haworth Tompkins Architects
  • Marks Barfield Architects
  • Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners
  • Zaha Hadid Architects with Anish Kapoor

The contest, which attracted 40 leading practices from around the globe, is backed by the Chinese ZhongRong Group (ZRG), which plans to spend £500 million on Crystal Palace Park, creating a cultural destination reflecting the original ‘spirit, scale and magnificence’ of the south London landmark.

Paxton’s original structure was destroyed by fire in 1936.

It is understood ‘up to three’ of the shortlisted teams will be asked to draw up concept designs, with a winner appointed later in the summer.

The victorious practice will be expected to work closely with lead consultant Arup.

Billed as a new ‘culture-led exhibition and employment space’, the scheme is set to create up to 2,000 jobs and will incorporate the listed Italianate terraces. The scheme will sit within Latz + Partners’ existing masterplan for the wider revamp of the surrounding 80ha park.

Mayor of London Boris Johnson, who is chairing the jury panel, said: ‘This is a stellar line-up of talent demonstrating the worldwide interest in this unique and challenging project.

‘The rebuild of The Crystal Palace is set to produce an extraordinary new landmark for the capital, which will support the rebirth of this historic park and catalyse jobs and growth in the local area.’

The other judges are RIBA president Stephen Hodder, Peter Murray, the chair of New London Architecture, former CABE chairman John Sorrell, leader of Bromley Council Stephen Carr, Hank Dittmar from the Prince’s Foundation for Building Community, and Eden Project co-founder Tim Smit.

The panel includes representatives from ZRG, which has an exclusivity agreement to develop the site with landowner Bromley Council.

The company’s chairman, Ni Zhaoxing, said: ‘The expressions of interest and outstanding shortlist demonstrate the wealth and diversity of design talent inspired by the challenge of rebuilding the Crystal Palace in the spirit of the magnificent original.’

The competition was first mooted last October and officially launched in December. A planning application could be submitted as early as this winter, with construction expected to start in winter 2015.



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:59 AM

Whoops wrong thread- I think it is safe to say any new Crystal Palace will not be built by a Chinese Billionaire at Victory place ;)



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:16 PM

So our favorite land banking developer is now looking to sell this for a whacking profit and selling with the added inducement of increasing the number of flats from 30 to 50. The rumour mill says its yours for £15m.

 

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 05:03 PM

So another year another application.

 

This time the Apart-hotel and roof terrace that was to front Westow St is jettisoned for 10x 2 bed flats and retail at ground level.

 

 

http://publicaccess....YD_DCAPR_145568


The changes to 35 Westow Street

comprise:
Replacement of the apart hotel use on the first to third floors with 10 no. 2 bedroom apartments;
Creation of a new residential entrance from Victory Place;
Amendment to the ground floor to provide a single retail unit fronting Westow Street and a residential uses facing the market square;
Amendment to the lower ground floor level to provide ancillary retail space to the retail unit fronting Westow Street and two retail units the market square;
Amendment to the proposed floor levels of the market square to the rear of 35 Westow Street together with minor amendments to the public realm in the immediate vicinity


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Posted 18 March 2015 - 07:21 PM

Shame about the hotel. 

 

So just how many residential units are on this site now? And how many of them are affordable? And, where is the S106 element of this scheme? 



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Posted 23 March 2015 - 03:04 PM

Agree, shame about the hotel. It does look like they are jamming in as many flats as possible. Those news ones on the ground floor designs would not be very appealing to live in



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Posted 28 March 2015 - 03:53 PM

Well I wonder how he will get around the new Croydon policy of 50% affordable housing for developments with 10 or more units.

 

 

 

Croydon,23March2015
Increasing affordable homes in Croydon
New residential developments built outside of the town centre will be required to provide a minimum 50% affordable housing.
 
From 1 April, council policy will state that half of all the bedrooms where there are 10 or more homes are in affordable housing units.
 
The minimum level is currently 30% but the local plan policy allows this to be reviewed each year in response to market changes.
 
Developments within the town centre that offer less than 50% affordable housing will have to justify this by undertaking a viability assessment.
 
The policy will apply to all future planning applications until the next review in April 2016.
 
Councillor Alison Butler, cabinet member for homes and regeneration
We are passionate about increasing the amount of affordable homes in Croydon. Like other London boroughs, we are in the midst of an ongoing housing crisis which is denying families a decent home to live in. We want to make it easier for Croydon residents to rent or buy a home which is why we have a flexible housing policy that can respond quickly to changing market conditions.
Councillor Alison Butler, cabinet member for homes and regeneration
 
The new affordable housing quota is to be agreed as part of the Croydon Monitoring Report.

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#115 charlie

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:48 PM

Well glad to see the developer is doing his bit for local relations by consulting extensively with the everyone before submitting any application...... or maybe not. ;)

http://publicaccess....YD_DCAPR_131949


Reference: 12/01010/DT
Alternative Reference:
Application Received: 12 Apr 2012
Address: Crystal Palace Market Square, Victory Place, London
Proposal: Erection of mixed use development including residential (C3)
retail (A1, A3 & A4) hotel (C1) and office (B1)

Question is will we see the funky roof top bar , that unusually for the area, everyone agrees on or have the killjoys at Croydon managed to get the only exciting bit of the proposal omitted.

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Looks like there is yet another planning application in for the demolition of the buildings related to this application.

 

http://publicaccess....YD_DCAPR_147090

 

15/02658/P | The demolition of some of the existing buildings on site and redevelopment and reuse to provide a mixed use scheme comprising retail within Class A1 (at ground floor level), flexible retail/office/studio space within Classes A1 and B1 (at ground floor level) including an element of D1 (community) use, restaurant/bar within Classes A3/A4 (at ground level), apart-hotel/hotel within Class C1 (at ground, 1st, 2nd & 3rd floor levels), office within Class B1 (at 1st & 2nd floor level), together with residential accommodation (Class C3) comprising a mix of 1 studio, 18 one bedroom, 9 two-bedroom and 5 three-bedroom flats (at 1st, 2nd and 3rd floor levels) and associated amenity space. Provision of a covered space for use as a market and entertainment space. Provision of associated disabled car parking, secure cycle storage and refuse/recycling storage areas (without compliance with conditions 3,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,15,16,18 & 19) | Land at Victory Place/ Carberry Road/ Carberry Works, Crystal Palace, SE19 3RU



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 11:11 PM

Or is it this application?

 

http://publicaccess.croydon.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=dates&keyVal=_CROYD_DCAPR_133562 

 

12/02611/P | The demolition of some of the existing buildings on site and redevelopment and reuse to provide a mixed use scheme comprising retail within Class A1 (at ground floor level), flexible retail/office/studio space within Classes A1 and B1 (at ground floor level) including an element of D1 (community) use, restaurant/bar within Classes A3/A4 (at ground level), apart-hotel/hotel within Class C1 (at ground, 1st, 2nd & 3rd floor levels), office within Class B1 (at 1st & 2nd floor level), together with residential accommodation (Class C3) comprising a mix of 1 studio, 18 one bedroom, 9 two-bedroom and 5 three-bedroom flats (at 1st, 2nd and 3rd floor levels) and associated amenity space. Provision of a covered space for use as a market and entertainment space. Provision of associated disabled car parking, secure cycle storage and refuse/recycling storage areas | Land at Victory Place/Carberry Road/Carberry Works, Crystal Palace, SE19 3RU

 

for which a decision was made for approval subject to conditions on 21 March 2013 and the S106 executed on 28 March 2013

 

http://planning.croydon.gov.uk/DocOnline/121171_3.pdf 

 

No wonder the public does not get involved in commenting on planning applications. Which planning application does the original S106 agreed to ( small business centre in South Norwood now a CAB) relate to? CONFUSED?



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 11:35 PM

Or does it relate to this application:

 

http://publicaccess....YD_DCAPR_144861

 

15/00422/DT | The demolition of some of the existing buildings on site and redevelopment and reuse to provide a mixed use scheme comprising retail within Class A1 (at ground floor level), flexible retail/office/studio space within Classes A1 and B1 (at ground floor level) including an element of D1 (community) use, restaurant/bar within Classes A3/A4 (at ground level), apart-hotel/hotel within Class C1 (at ground, 1st, 2nd & 3rd floor levels), office within Class B1 (at 1st & 2nd floor level), together with residential accommodation (Class C3) comprising a mix of 1 studio, 18 one bedroom, 9 two-bedroom and 5 three-bedroom flats (at 1st, 2nd and 3rd floor levels) and associated amenity space. Provision of a covered space for use as a market and entertainment space. Provision of associated disabled car parking, secure cycle storage and refuse/recycling storage areas (amendmen to planning permission 12/02611/P) | Land At Victory Place/Carberry Road/Carberry Works, Crystal Palace, SE19 3RU

 

http://planning.croy...ne/163277_1.pdf



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Posted 18 January 2016 - 03:02 PM

What with the Vintage Shop on 35 Westow St forced to close very soon this is the proposed schedule of works for the wholesale redevelopment.

 

What no one seems to know is what will become of 35 Westow St.

Rumours are swirling that he intends to build flats.

 

The approved plan was for a hotel, which would have been good for the town centre but the developer put in an application last March to swap this with private residential ( thus making him a small fortune) and not provide any affordable housing.

 

 

http://planning.croy...ne/178870_3.pdf

 

Construction Programme

The Developer  intends  to  commence  Phase  1  of  construction  identified  in  the  Phasing  Plan in January 2016.

The subsequent construction phases are scheduled to occur as follows:

                                                    Commencement                        Completion

Programme 2                              April 2016                                    May 2017

Programme 3                              April 2017                                    May 2018

Programme 4                              April 2018                                    September 2019

Programme 5                              August 2019                               September 2020