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[Moulash]

Building works to 25 Church Road have been a well masked and somewhat guarded secret. This week, newspapers plastered to the front entrance windows are now removed to reveal the finished works to the foyer. No, there is no hint of Art Nouveau or sympathetic hints of the Rialto yesteryear. But in a short lived glimmer of hope there was one testament to its former use; a row of ticket booths to the right. Now here is where I need help. Is this a Church or an establishment that charges an entrance fee? Always the eternal optimist (or a naive dreamer) I was hoping that maybe, unbeknown to us all, KICC finally gave up the ghost owing to local discontent and unrelenting pressure, and secretly sold 25 Church Road to a cinema group. Either that or KICC charge its congregation an entry fee. Yes of course, the latter is far more plausible and certainly explains their bottomless pit of wealth.

[Summit Lover]

[Fang]

Building works to 25 Church Road have been a well masked and somewhat guarded secret. This week, newspapers plastered to the front entrance windows are now removed to reveal the finished works to the foyer. No, there is no hint of Art Nouveau or sympathetic hints of the Rialto yesteryear. But in a short lived glimmer of hope there was one testament to its former use; a row of ticket booths to the right. Now here is where I need help. Is this a Church or an establishment that charges an entrance fee? Always the eternal optimist (or a naive dreamer) I was hoping that maybe, unbeknown to us all, KICC finally gave up the ghost owing to local discontent and unrelenting pressure, and secretly sold 25 Church Road to a cinema group. Either that or KICC charge its congregation an entry fee. Yes of course, the latter is far more plausible and certainly explains their bottomless pit of wealth.

And if its not a Church, which is of course prohibited by Planning Regulations, can someone explain how a religious charity can use charitable funds to buy and refurbish a music and entertainment venue. I'd also appreciate any advice on how my company can also secure charitable status.

[kibitzer]

I am just as baffled as you are Fang! I have always believed when hearing and seeing what these churches are all about that they appear to me, and this is my own blasphemous opinion, that these are money making organisations masquerading as religious and charitable ones.

[Fang]

I am just as baffled as you are Fang! I have always believed when hearing and seeing what these churches are all about that they appear to me, and this is my own blasphemous opinion, that these are money making organisations masquerading as religious and charitable ones.

I've only recently become aware of the extent of the disquiet other Christian churches have about the 'prosperity gospel' Churches such as the KICC. I read the Bishop of Croydons blog about them last year, but this disquiet is shared by some other evangelical churches.

[matt-h]

They're nothing more than scams. No salvation is to be found there. I feel sorry for those suckered into them.

[St. Lukes Railings]

Saw the foyer last night. You have to say though they've made a good fist of it in there.

[charlie]

They've certainly spent lots of money but it's corporate, clinical and completely lacking character. Reminiscent of a conference centre not our only D2 heritage building. Whilst they have kept some features I think, such as the decorative wrought iron ballustrade in the stairwell, it has followed their model to a tee especially the auditorium and stage. Doesn't matter how fancy it is inside, I somehow doubt this will be an inclusive venue representative of and open to the whole community which it should be. Although I am sure some people will welcome it, it does seem a waste of what should be a community assett. We'll have to wait and see. When they spoke to our long gone town centre manager they were talking about a grand Mayoral opening.

I wonder if they'll open up without any signage or will they plough and play the planning system.

What next? Sponsoring our public library? Now there's a thought!

[Sylvester]

The KICC relies on their congregation paying tithes to keep the church running (and the pastor in Mercedes ). Could this be the purpose of the ticket booths (ie. you get a ticket to prove you've paid)? Or you can always pay on line http://www.kiccshop....p-15-tithe.aspx

I for one wouldn't mind sponsoring the local library. Better value for money than ladling cash to the KICC.

[Dazza]

I can just see the inside of this place lot of computer consoles so the congregation can all send phishing emails !

Dazza

[St. Lukes Railings]

From: Jani Adams
To: Michael Palin
Date: April 2007
Subject: HELP ME TO SPREAD GOODNESS


My beloved,

It is my pleasure to contact you for a business venture which I intend to establish in your country.Though I have not met with you before but I believe, one has to risk confiding in someone to succeed sometimes in life.

There is this amount of FIFTEEN Million US Dollars which my Father deposited with a security company which he wanted to used for his political ambition in our Country before he was kidnapped and killed by unknown gun men. Hence my father and mother is dead, I do not have any other hope rather than this funds which is why I contacted you.

Now I have decided to invest these money in your country or any where safe enough outside Africa for security and political reasons. I only give all praises to God who made every thing to be like this, my father is gone, I can count you as my father if you wish to be a Daddy to me. [Pass the sickbag]

Hence this investment shall be made in your company upon your withdrawal of the consignment, I do not have money to work on this and will commit suicide and die [And die? Suicide just isn't good enough these days] if I cannot secure my late father's treasure which he got for his family.

I want you to help us claim and receive the consignment which will be sent to you through diplomatic means to your address to avoid any traces of the funds and to enable you plan for the investment in your Country.

I will like to invest part of the money into these three investment in your Country but, if there is any other business that is better than my suggestion, I will be very glad to follow your advice.

1). Real estate
2). The transport industry
3). Five star hotel

If you can be of an assistance to me, I will be pleased to offer to you 20% Of the total fund while the balance will be invested by you. I need your understanding and honesty to this project, I assure you to always be your brother.

I await your soonest response.

Respectfully yours,

Miss Jani Adams

[Dazza]

got this one yesterday

Dear Customer,
A Parcel containg a Bank Draft of £900.000.00 GBP was registered with us some days back by one Mrs.Amanda Weish for shippment to you.She said you do contact us about the delivery,we have waited for you to contact us for the last two days now but did not hear from you,so we decided to write you. For your information we are in possession of a Parcel containing a confirmable Bank Draft of £900.000.00 GBP and some other legal documents which are to be shipped to your residence for delivery.

The delivery charge and Insurance fee have already been paid for when your parcel was registered with us,the only fee you are to pay is the security keeping fee on your parcel which is £200 GBP.Confirm to us your Full Name,Complete Address,Direct Telephone Number and Country in order for us to proceed with the delivery to you without any further delay.

Contact Person:
FedEx Dispatch Director
Mr. Daniel J. Cole
Email: fedex.courier2@live.com
Tel: +234 812-721-5281

Regards
Mrs.Racheal Bazzi
Secretary.

[charlie]

Ha Ha -hilarious, we should have had a thread like this ages ago. Completely off topic but got this one the other day, if you don't see me around after the weekend you know I have been charged with International Money Laundering.

INTERNATIONAL POLICE AUTHORITY UNITED STATES SECTION (INTERPOL)
JOHN F. KENNEDY RESIDENT AGENCY
ANTI-TERRORIST AND MONITORY CRIMES DIVISION
JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
JAMAICA, NEW YORK 11430

We, office of the international police authority (IPA) hereby write to inform you that we caught a diplomatic lady by the name Mrs. Vernon Wallace at (John F Kennedy International Airport) here in New York with a consignment box filled with United States Dollars.

Base on our interview to the diplomat she said that the consignment box belongs to you and that she was sent by one Isaac peters to come deliver the consignment box to your doorstep not knowing that the content of the box is money.

Now, the diplomat is under detention in the office of (IPA) security, and we cannot release her until we carry out our proper investigation on how this huge amount of money managed to be yours. So, in this regards you are to reassure and prove to us that the money you are about to receive is legal by sending us the Award Ownership Certificate showing that the money is not illegal.

Note, that the Award Ownership Certificate must to be secured from the office of the Nigerian Senate President, because that is the only office that will issue you the original Award Ownership Certificate of this funds, this is because the fund originated from Nigeria.

You are advised to forward immediately the Award Ownership Certificate if you have it with you, but if you do not have it, we urge you to contact back the sender of the diplomat to help you secure the Award Ownership Certificate if at all you do not have it.

Below is the contact information of the person that sent Mrs. Vernon Wallace as provied by her;

Name: : REV ISAAC PETERS

Email:revisaacpeters200@gmail.com

Furthermore, we are giving you only but 3 working business days to forward the requested Award Ownership Certificate. Please note that we shall get back to you after the 3 working business days, that if you didn’t come up with the certificate we shall confiscate the funds into World Bank account then charge you for money laundering, but if you forward the Award Ownership Certificate then we will release diplomat with your consignment box also gives you every back up on the money.

Thanks for your understanding and co-operation

Yours Truly,

Agent. Douglas H. King

JOHN F. KENNEDY RESIDENT AGENCY

ANTI-TERRORIST AND MONITORY CRIMES DIVISION

JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

JAMAICA, NEW YORK 11430

CC: Canadian Police Association

CC: GENERAL INTELLIGENCE DEPARTMENT (GID)

CC: Asia Pacific Group on Money Laundering (APG)

CC: Egmont Group

CC: FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (FBI USA)

CC: European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD)

CC: Financial Action Task Force (FATF)

CC: International Monetary Fund (IMF)

CC: International Organization of Securities Commissions (IOSCO)

CC: International Banking Security Association (IBSA)

CC: International Air Transport Association (IATA)

CC: Institut de Formation Interbancaire (INSIG)

CC: World Customs Organization (WCO)

CC: Inter-American Development Bank (IADB)

CC: Offshore Group of Banking Supervisors (OGBS)

CC: WORLD CENTRAL BANK (SW)

CC: NIGERIA POLICE FORCE (NPF)

CC: NORTH YORKSHIRE POLICE (UK)

CC: ECONOMIC FINANCIAL CRIME COMMISSION (EFCC)

[Fang]

What! You mean these are scams? I've received offers of huge wealth in the last two weeks from the following dear friends and benefactors;

Abu Dahbi United Fund.
Liu (from Hong Kong).
The Micro Soft Lottery.
Dr Omar Al Jamal (The Libyan African Investment Portfolio).
William Tudor Former Barrister.
Sizue Imanshi (The alias of Lottery winners Dave and Angela Dawes).
Mrs. Robin Davies.
Dr Paul Taumano Williams. (Federal Ministry of Power and steel-Nigeria).
Mrs. Omah Odum.

£15.5 million to be exact. I was planning on getting the a new boiler.

[bawheid]

I recommend you read this... if it's not in Upper Norwood Library then you can buy it on Amazon and it'll be a better use of your cash than paying for your salvation or whatever KICC promises you:

http://www.amazon.co...93&sr=1-2-fkmr0