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#1 nikdevlin

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 12:48 PM

I got the idea for this thread while listening to Johnny Cash singing The Mercy Seat. Basically, let's have some darkness (and I don't mean that joke rock band from Lowestoft), let's hear about your favourite dark, dodgy and/or depressing songs, books, films, poems etc etc. To get the ball rolling, have a listen to this song, The Electrician by Scott Walker. It is, apparently, about a torturer and executioner in South America who brings his work home with him.


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Posted 09 July 2012 - 01:32 PM

This is all I can come up with...



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Posted 09 July 2012 - 01:32 PM

This is a cheery little number from an album called 'Murder Ballads'. Nick Cave gets obsessed with Kylie, takes her down to the river then smashes her skull in. Niiiiice.


Edited by Sidney Ruff-Diamond, 09 July 2012 - 01:34 PM.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 01:42 PM

Say no more...


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Posted 09 July 2012 - 01:58 PM

Not really my bundle but who'd have believed the cheeky '70's Irish popster chappie Gilbert O'Sullivan could have come up with possibly the most depressing lyrics ever written...

In a little while from now
If I’m not feeling any less sour
I promise myself to treat myself
And visit a nearby tower
And climbing to the top will throw myself off


If you never knew the lyrics before take a look - what was previously light throwaway Radio 2 fodder will become something much much darker when you hear it again... being stood up, contemplating suicide, death. Cheery it ain't.

http://www.stlyrics....innaturally.htm

Edited by Sidney Ruff-Diamond, 09 July 2012 - 02:01 PM.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 02:20 PM

Yeah, I remember that song from when I was a kid, and my Grandma was in the kitchen with RTE radio on (Radio Telefis Eireann, Ireland's national channel. Think Radio 2, with added Catholicism and agriculture). I hated Gilbert O'Sullivan, his voice was horrible, and a lot of his songs were actually very bleak.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 02:40 PM

Long summer hols spent at my Nan's in Limerick in the '70's... I know where you're coming from with RTE!

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 02:49 PM

Purists would go for the full version but the out-take from that Greek tragedy 'Acropolis Now' gives it more pathos:



The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on
He took a face from the ancient gallery
And he walked on down the hall
He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he
Paid a visit to his brother, and then he
He walked on down the hall, and
And he came to a door...and he looked inside
Father, yes son, I want to kill you
Mother...I want to...WAAAAAA
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 03:01 PM

I know where you're coming from with RTE!


All those hellish ads for agricultural products just as you (and, I suppose, all the farmers in Ireland) sat down to tea. Liver fluke ads were always my favourite.

"Chenounction, tis a quare name but great shtuff. From Ceiba Geigy, the name you can trust".

Nightmare.
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#10 Sidney Ruff-Diamond

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 03:27 PM

Stay away from the knife drawer...

A people come to this
Beyond the age of reason
A people fed on famine
A people on their knees and
People eat each other
A people stand in line
Waiting for another war and
Waiting for my valentine


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Posted 09 July 2012 - 05:41 PM

This is one of my favourite songs, from a album that could be described as bleak, by Eels.
But it never makes me feel sad, rather more determined to live life.
There's one line that really gets to me though:

"So I know you're going pretty soon.
Radiation sore-throat cut your tongue
Magic markers tattoo you
And show it wear to aim
And strangers break their promises: "You won't feel any pain"'

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:09 PM

Bloody hell, you are a cheery lot! Let me take it down a bit.

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My wife will be away on business for the next two nights, so tomorrow evening I plan to treat myself to one of the most miserable, depressing, unpleasant films every made, Downfall (2004). And it's won’t be the first time I've seen it, not even the second. This will be the third time I've watched it, the third time I've watched the final days of those sons of fun, The Third Reich, and their laughing boy boss, Adolf Hitler, all two and a half excruciating hours of it.



See, the thing is, I really really like it. I love the claustrophobic atmosphere portrayed in the Fuhrerbunker in 1945, I love the political machinations and shenanigans of Hitler's minions and hangers-on, I love the feeling of a shrinking world, and, love it or hate it, I think Bruno Ganz's performance as Hitler is incredible. There have been criticisms of his portrayal of one of the most evil men in history, because it somehow humanises the madman, makes him somehow to be pitied, felt sorry for. I think this is disingenuous at best, and utter Scheiße at worst. What it shows is his disintegration, his world falling apart before his very eyes as the terrible, evil logistics it was built on are exposed. And if anyone feels sorry for him, as his stammer gets worse, his hands shake, his memory starts to go, and he looks more tired and ill every day, well that says more about them than it does about this film.

 The first time I saw it I was ill in bed with Swine Flu, and my mate Dougie dropped it round, and I watched it through a fog of headache, sweats and cramps. I don’t think I’ll be watching it in that state tomorrow, but I know it’ll still have a major impact on me, and will continue to for some days (I'm also on the last chapter of the audiobook of Shirer's Rise & Fall of the Third Reich at work). It'll fade away then, and I won't watch it for another year or two, but this definitely won’t be the last time I've watched it.

Edited by nikdevlin, 09 July 2012 - 09:10 PM.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:25 AM

Well this in an obvious one I suppose from Nine Inch Nails


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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:48 PM

Not the usual Motorhead style punch in the face but a very powerful and moving ballad (with Lemmy and a cello!!) about the futility and waste of the Great War...

16 years old when I went to the war,
To fight for a land fit for heroes,
God on my side, and a gun in my hand,
Counting my days down to zero,
And I marched and I fought and I bled and I died,
And I never did get any older,
But I knew at the time that a year in the line,
Is a long enough life for a soldier,

We all volunteered, and we wrote down our names,
And we added two years to our ages,
Eager for life and ahead of the game,
Ready for history's pages,
And we brawled and we fought and we whored 'til we stood,
Ten thousand shoulder to shoulder,
A thirst for the Hun, we were food for the gun,
And that's what you are when you're soldiers,

I heard my friend cry, and he sank to his knees,
Coughing blood as he screamed for his mother,
And I fell by his side, and that's how we died,
Clinging like kids to each other,
And I lay in the mud and the guts and the blood,
And I wept as his body grew colder,
And I called for my mother and she never came,
Though it wasn't my fault and I wasn't to blame,
The day not half over and ten thousand slain,
And now there's nobody remembers our names,
And that's how it is for a soldier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqFoqtpUFY8

Well this in an obvious one I suppose from Nine Inch Nails


Love the original but the Johnny Cash cover really brings a lump to the throat.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 08:45 PM

I have a theory that the love of dark, miserable, sad, moody songs is largely (but not exclusively of course - there is always a Rachel that proves the rule!) a male thing. My other half loves wallowing in music that would drive me to depression, although he seems perfectly fine with it.

(Mind you, I do rather like Johnny Cash's version of 'If you could read my mind'...).