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#16 jamesl

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:07 PM

So if Bromley bleieve that this was not an act of worship perhaps they may care to consider waht parsie district said about the event here

http://www.eventbrit.../org/1515333600
http://eveningforone...eventbrite.com/


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Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:30 PM

I passed 25CR this morning and glimpsed posters advertising a KICC event to see in the new year in. I was driving so couldn't see the details. Perhaps some one could have a look at lets us all know what form the 'non act of worship' event will be taking this time.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:51 PM

KICC have finally found a new home - the former Buckmore Park is now know as The Prayer Centre http://www.kicc.org....50/Default.aspx

The travel plans for Prayer City show the key pick up points are in Barking, Woolwich and Lewisham but no Wimbledon connection.
http://www.kicc.org....mas_backred.pdf

And looks like Buckmore Park was a steal:
"Due to the recession, a good price was offered and thanks to the generosity of our members, we were able to complete the freehold purchase cash-down-debt-free. The new site is an answer to our prayers and will be known as “Prayer City” http://www.kicc.org....50/Default.aspx

"KICC was also celebrating its purchase of a 24acre facility worth £30 million for a paltry £5 million. The facility has been aptly named Prayer City."
http://www.zimeye.org/?p=65574

Not sure what, if any implication this new purchase will have on plans for 25.

#19 Sidney Ruff-Diamond

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:05 PM

Probably none. It's an asset and they come across as stubborn selfish sods to me who'll cling on to it out of spite no matter what.

Edited by Sidney Ruff-Diamond, 22 December 2012 - 06:08 PM.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:23 PM

I think we should really stop believing that these people are here by some strange mistake or misunderstanding. They knew before buying 25 that this is a very low KICC follower area, and it is not DESPITE that, that they are here, but BECAUSE of that they are here! They will not give up. Not more than any christian missionaries gave up when they invaded Africa. There is no way they will suddenly say, "Oh so sorry, we didn't understand we weren't welcome, awfully sorry, of course we let these lovely people of Crystal Palace have their Cinema which is what they actually want..."
Forget it! The only way to get rid of them is to be as evil and badly mannered as they are!

#21 Sidney Ruff-Diamond

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:54 PM

With a provocative motto like 'Taking Territories' they're going nowhere.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 08:39 PM

When they have cash free (recession proof) income of around £10million a year and pay bugger all tax and have very little scrutiny they will simply continue to buy whatever they wish, where ever they wish , regardless of what effect that will have,they can pick up new mugs followers on the way willing to swell their coffers and to hell to everyone else. Unlike a normal business they simply don't care if what they have bought is value for money or even if it can be used lawfully, another pin on the map is all that matters and they can go on buying property like a Monopoly game.

They bought this place on a whim for £1.25 mill, prob spent in the region of 500-1,000,000 on it yet that's only a few months collections and offerings and they know they won't sell this place at a loss. In the meantime its being used by the greater gospel community for events and services and there's bugger all anyone can do about it.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 11:02 PM

With a provocative motto like 'Taking Territories' they're going nowhere.

Well, they got all the way from SW19 to SE19...

#24 Sidney Ruff-Diamond

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 11:22 PM

By going nowhere I meant now they've taken this territory the buggers won't be shifting. :angry:

Edited by Sidney Ruff-Diamond, 23 December 2012 - 11:23 PM.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:16 AM

Well, they got all the way from SW19 to SE19...


They haven't exactly left SW19 have they.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 09:22 AM

We should all thank the Lord for small mercies - we do not have to host KICC's South of England church services. The SW19 church stays put and 25 CR operates as a hybrid D1/2 venue (still outside lawful use class).

This territory has not been taken, yet, but KICC clearly plan to step D1 use at 25 CR to set precedent. It is unfortunate that Bromley officers considered last months gospel concert as falling within D2 use class, choosing to overlook the fact it was billed as an evening of worship.

Still much much better to have to suffer a few events a year than each week.




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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:59 AM

By going nowhere I meant now they've taken this territory the buggers won't be shifting. :angry:


Ah sorry, misunderstood you and agree 100%.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:15 PM

We should all thank the Lord for small mercies - we do not have to host KICC's South of England church services. The SW19 church stays put and 25 CR operates as a hybrid D1/2 venue (still outside lawful use class).

This territory has not been taken, yet, but KICC clearly plan to step D1 use at 25 CR to set precedent. It is unfortunate that Bromley officers considered last months gospel concert as falling within D2 use class, choosing to overlook the fact it was billed as an evening of worship.

Still much much better to have to suffer a few events a year than each week.


Oh, really? I hadn't understood the import. Has that been confirmed? Excellent news, if so (if not the news we really want).

#29 Sidney Ruff-Diamond

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:11 PM

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:24 PM

Flipping brilliant Sidders!





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