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[Richard Williams]

This appears in the Newsshopper.



(TfL) is launching a public consultation about a proposed Tramlink extension.

The extension would link the existing Tramlink network with the Anerley and Crystal Palace areas with up to six trams an hour running on the route by 2013.

People participating in the consultation, which starts next week, can choose from three options.

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The first option is to run the tram up Anerley Road and Anerley Hill into Crystal Palace bus station through the edge of the park.

Another option is to run the tram fully off-street beside the railway to Crystal Palace station and then along the edge of the park behind the museum.

The final option is to mix the two with the trams running on the street up to the station and then off-street through the edge of the park.

It is expected four million passengers a year will use the proposed service.

London Mayor Ken Livingstone believes the extension will help regenerate Anerley and Crystal Palace Park and improve transport links in south London as a whole.

TfL had also proposed to build an extension linking Crystal Palace directly to Beckenham Junction.

This idea has been withdrawn because it would have involved building a completely new tram line and was considered to be too expensive.

Both Tramlink extension schemes are supported by Bromley Council.

Its head of transport strategy Ian Forbes said: "We have consistently supported the extension of Tramlink to Crystal Palace.

"We also supported the link between Beckenham Junction and Crystal Palace and we hope it is brought back to the table as well."

Funding for the tram scheme exists as part of TfL's five-year investment plan but there is no guarantee it will be built because it has to be approved by the Government after the public consultation.

Residents interested in taking part in the consultation should look in next week's News Shopper for more details.

[Silver]

The Mayor feels that tramlink would be good for Crystal Palace but I feel that if there is any significant opposition to it going through the park, he will simply spend the money somewhere else and we simply won't get it.

Most of the traders see the tram as a good way to regenerate a flagging town. If more customers come here, small independent shops will bother to open up. Therefore I would urge people to think long and hard before objecting to this one.

[duckec01]

If it is designed sensitively I think the tram going along the edge of the park would be a good thing, certainly better than the amount of cars that currently use the park.

[Angeles]

I agree that the area shouldn't miss this great opportunity. I don't think that the tram going through the edge of the Park would cause signifficant disturbance, and also it may help to cut traffic and therefore to cut pollution. However, I have noticed that the CPCA are campaining against the tram since in their minds the tram "threatens to ruin our Park" www.cpca.org.uk

Maybe the area needs some strong movement of oposition to the CPCA if we don't want to end up living in a forgotten ghost town in the future.

[James]

Maybe the area needs some strong movement of oposition to the CPCA if we don't want to end up living in a forgotten ghost town in the future.

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You are very much entitled to your own opinion. However due to previous problems with discussion of the CPCA this issue falls under the category of politics and as such is restricted from further discussion on our forum.

[Silver]

may I suggest we adopt the term ' a certain community association' in future.

[James]

I'm sorry but the answer is no.

[Paul.W]

TFL's tramlink consultation appears to be "live" now via their website. Unfortunately all the options seem to require some form of property acquistion. I would imagine the parade of shops/offices on Anerley Road, between Hamlet Road and Tesco ,would be vulnerable? Does anyone have any further information on this?

[Nick]

Options 2 and 3 seem to require the most property demolition. Certainly options 2 looks like it would require a serious rebuild of the station around Platform 1. I quite like Option 2 at an initial look, but probably need to look more closely.

Nick

[Zirconium]

The tramalink proposals (see http://www.tfl.gov.u...s.shtml#option1 ) look very exciting and should provide fantastic access to Croydon shopping centres. I would advise everyone to express an opinion on the proposals so that they aren't sunk by those who oppose any development or change.

[howdy]

Having looked at the proposed routes, I don't think that this would have a negative impact on the park - and any reduction in car traffic would be highly beneficial to the area as a whole.

In my limited experience (Holešovice in Prague and Dolores Park in San Francisco), I've found trams integrate well with parks.

[pgomm]

I've just received the Tramlink extension consultation document, and I'd just like to say that I'm all for any one of the three options. I don't really have a preference - I just want to see it happen!

Lloyd Park is an excellent example of how modern transportation can integrate well with the natural environment.

Let's just hope that the extension is not blocked on the grounds of conservation - progress isn't always a good thing, but in this case it's a fantastic opportunity for the area.

Bring it on!

[adam1982]

I'd like to add to those sentiments. Either of the options will be excellent for the area. I looked through the document last night and I also think it is between option 2 and 3. However it does say that option 2 is the most expensive and I don't want to put them off going ahead by suggesting the most expensive so maybe option 3 is a happy medium.

[Richard Williams]

You can check out the proposals on line.
http://www.tfl.gov.u...tep/index.shtml


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[Elmo]

I can see this issue raising my political temperature again... Can we resurrect the politics forum off-site? Maybe we could discuss later??? I always think more clearly after a couple of beers...