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#1 belle

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Posted 19 September 2005 - 08:40 AM

While we're on the subject of floors. We're having our floors sanded so we've been on the lookout for decent companies. Anyone got any suggestions? We've got to get them soundproofed as well so if anyone's had any experience of that I'd love to hear about it.
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#2 Steve Palmer

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Posted 21 September 2005 - 09:40 PM

I assume you are in a flat? If so do check the terms of your lease as the is often a covenant requiring you to keep carpets laid or something along those lines.

Soundproofing....well there is no such thing really, only sound transmission reduction. Some sound will always be transmitted. Preventing sound transmission between flats is difficult and a bit compicated. There are standards contained in the building regulations here http://www.odpm.gov....age/br0046.hcsp but in a nutshell there are three ways in which sound is tranmitted which all need to be dealt with for it to be effective. Airborne Sound Transmission, Impact Sound Transmission and Flanking Transmission.

If the floor seperates you from your neighbour and you are going to do any work to it such as soundproofing then you may need to comply with the requirements of the Party Wall Etc, Act here http://www.odpm.gov....age/br0063.hcsp which will require you to serve notice a couple of months prior to your start date and get consent from them (if they don't consent then you must appoint surveyors to determine any dispute).

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 07:42 AM

An email I received yesterday:

xxxxxx are holding a drum product launch up on the 2nd floor on Thurs eve.  In preparation for this they will be trying out / sound checking their new sound proofing on that floor.  This means approx 1 hour tomorrow Weds and 2-3 hours on Thurs afternoon.  They will come down stairs to give us specific warning when they are about to start hitting things.  So, 1st floor dwellars, if you have any important meetings on those days - you either might want to let them know, so they can avoid those times or try to re-arrange if possible,


As a 1st floor dwellar I heard nothing yesterday and will surely find out if their soundproofing works today. They brought in a specialist company to fit it, and I imagine the floors are somewhat thicker in an office building than residential...
will let you know results!!

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 07:53 AM

belle, if you are going to sand them yourself, Focusplant hire on Gipsy Hill is good. I can't remember the exact cost, but after phoning around six months ago, it seemed the best value locally.
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#5 belle

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 08:17 AM

Hi Steve,

We've checked all the laws etc. There's actually no requirement for us to have the floor soundproofed since we are groundfloor (and we are the freeholders anyway), but since our basement neighbour has been going on and on about us having the place soundproofed since we moved in we're doing it for a quiet life (so to speak). If, after all the fuss she's made, she then complains about us having the actual work done I think my neighbourly feelings may start to wear a little thin! She's actually just a tenant but you wouldn't know it!
Thanks for the info on soundproofing. I've actually looked into all of it already - I'm well aware that you can't entirely sound proof a place and that wasn't my intention. I was actually just interested to know if anyone lives in a conversion with wooden floors that have been "soundproofed" and if so, how effective they find it.

And also if anyone has used a reliable company/person to do the floor sanding for them please let me know!
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 08:18 AM

we used these guys - we did it ourselves but i believe they can do the job for you too...

http://www.floorsanderhire.com
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 10:56 AM

I used a chap found in yellow pages called Russell on 07947 526 470. Out of the people who gave us a quote he came across as the most friendly and trustworthy. He did a good job as well.

We've also used Focus Plant on Gypsy Hill and think they're pretty good.

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:04 AM

we used these guys - we did it ourselves but i believe they can do the job for you too...

http://www.floorsanderhire.com

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Another thumbs up for these guys - we did it ourself.

They did fail to pick up when they were supposed to though - the upside to this was that we ended up with a sander for the weekend and managed to sand an extra room B)

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 08:48 AM

Hi Belle
We used HSS Hire Shops in Elmers End.
Word of warning though...
We have a fair bit of experience of DIY such as fitting kitchens, bathrooms etc, and I can safely say we will never EVER sand another floor again! It is extremely disruptive and noisy (warn your neighbours in advance). The dust was incredible and no matter what protection you wear it will get everywhere!
The end result depends on the quality of the boards, which can be quite hard to tell before you start the job. You need a lot of layers of varnish, which means which ever room or rooms are out of bounds for a while (fine if you live in a big house but not if you live in a 1 bedroom flat!).
After all the effort we went through we then discovered that the flat felt really cold. We ended up carpeting throughout - so all our disruption was pointless and expensive.
I would suggest you consider hiring the professionals rather than doing it yourself. The difference in cost seems massive at first BUT when you take the sander back to the hire shop and they charge you for all the paper you've used, you will realise that hiring isn't as cheap as it sounds! I wish I'd looked into it more before we'd started - as it was a real DIY SOS situation! :(
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Posted 23 September 2005 - 09:33 AM

The last time i sanded our floors, i got fed up with the "beach-look" after a couple of months and it took weeks to hoover it all up.
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Posted 23 September 2005 - 10:34 AM

I didn't find it too horrendous to be honest!

The floor sander hire place recommended above says it has the best sanders and that they are virtually dust free, and they were pretty good, although ear protection, googles and face mask are a must!

We got our large front room sanded and varnished over a weekend and we had moved the furniture back in by the Monday.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 10:43 AM

My last post was an attempted joke !? The sand was from West Lancashire.
We did ours a few months back and it wasn't so bad at all, really.
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Posted 23 September 2005 - 10:48 AM

definatley hire the sanders which come with a large vacuum cylinder to collect the dust - we did our flat in 5 days and ended up with 3 large dustbin bags full of collected sawdust/dust...there wasnt much dust left after the sander so the only problem was the noise levels can be quite extreme - hence waring all our neighbours the forthcoming noise... its quite therapeutic though... ;)
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Posted 23 September 2005 - 11:02 AM

hence waring all our neighbours the forthcoming noise... its quite therapeutic though

Noise can be very relaxing indeed...i have several recordings of noise from Japan, which can be very involving, and when the record ends, the silence is very disturbing !?
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#15 belle

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 02:30 PM

We actually decided to get someone else to do it for us because we couldn't face all the hassles, but reading your comments, weeble, has made me wonder if we should stop being so lazy and just do it ourselves. Thing is, I'm concerned that the extra time it will take us means that we'll end up paying as much for the longer sander hire as we would have done for a pro to come in. Plus, not having a car means that if there's any bad floorboards that need replacing, we'll have to try to work out a way of getting hold of new ones.

We've only got a 1 bed and I work at home (in the bedroom!) so we'd have to get the whole thing done as quickly as possible in order to get the place back to normal. We're umming and ahhing about what's best now!
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