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#1 tealight rookie

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 04:04 PM

Hello lovely people :)

I hope this is an appropriate post/the right place...

I'm currently in the middle of a relationship break-up (it's all very amicable and lovely though) and as a result will shortly be looking for somewhere new to live. I live in Streatham at the moment and have really enjoyed my time here, but I'm wondering about maybe making the move to Upper Norwood/CP. It'd be a completely new start for me as much as anything, but also the property looks fairly cheap (in a good way :P ) and it looks like the place is full of nice bars/restaurants too.

So, is this a good move? You all look pretty happy and lovely, which ought to tell me something. But seriously, what's the place really like?

Thank you!

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 04:23 PM

Hi there,

Welcome to Virtual Norwood. My partner and I moved here just under two years ago in order to get more for our money. We haven't looked back - we love it here. The people are great as are the restaurants. It's also really lovely having the park and being so close to the countryside. I definitely recommend it! :) Feel free to ask any more questions you have.

Happy house hunting!
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#3 tealight rookie

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 04:30 PM

Hi there,

Welcome to Virtual Norwood. My partner and I moved here just under two years ago in order to get more for our money. We haven't looked back - we love it here. The people are great as are the restaurants. It's also really lovely having the park and being so close to the countryside. I definitely recommend it! :) Feel free to ask any more questions you have.

Happy house hunting!


Thank you!

What's it like safety wise? I mean, not that I'm paranoid :blink: but I would be coming back late at times etc etc. And what's travel like (I tend to use buses most of the time)?

Oh, and what's the deal about using the running track in the park? Is there a club there?

And... what sort of ages are the majority of peeps? Is it a good mix or will I be too old at 30?!

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 04:51 PM

Hi there,

I crossed the great divide from norf to sauf about 6 years ago. I can honestly say that CP has been well worthwhile. We all have our gripes (if you spend some time on these boards they will become apparent) but overall the pluses far outweigh the minuses.
Obvious pluses - green spaces, good eating and drinking on your doorstep, good transport, generally safe area (IMHO), the views from CP on a clear day - I think you get the idea.
Minuses - those views come at a price in the shape of proper hills. the high street is suffering, the gerneral feeling that as an area we are at the edge of 4/5 (?) differnet boroughts we dont get the attention we should from the councils in terms of service.
But generally I think there is a feeling that it is a good area which with a bit of TLC could be even better.

Buses are good - the no. 3 is excellent running from the westend and through brixton to connect the tube. Also N2 and N3 night buses.

If it helps, a friend of mine just bought in streatham and has been kicking herself for not choosing Palace ever since !!

Hope this helps.

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 04:53 PM

Well, I'm 35 and don't feel past it yet. Maybe it's the hills!

Like any area, be aware at night. I've had no problems in over 5 years,but it always pays to be careful at night.

This area is great for eating out,and we still have a few independent shops. You could do a lot worse.

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Posted 22 July 2006 - 02:44 PM

We moved here in the early 90's after living in Streatham and Thornton Heath. We always used to socialise up here so were made up when we had the chance to move up here permanently.

The views are fantastic and you get a really different feel up here from the rest of London.

The area has changed quite a bit over the last 10 years or so. Burglaries and car crime seem to have gone down quite significantly, but don't know if that's more to do with increased security and awareness. As for the pubs they are generally pretty safe although there's the usual 'too much to drink' issues that you'ld expect anywhere with lots of bars and late night licencing.

Overall we love the place and have no intention of moving for the forseeable future. It's great for commuting, with good services to both Victoria and London Bridge. Gatwick and Brighton are easily accessible with a quick change at Norwood Junction or East Croydon and the N3 night bus sees frequent use. Just make sure you get on the ones that terminate at Crystal Palace as falling asleep incurs a merry trip to Bromley (alledgedly!)

The if the demographics of the local population are to be measured by the numbers of young professionals using the station in the morning, we can say that the area has undergone quite a significant change in the last 10 years. More and more young couples are moving to the area as it is still viewed as reasonably affordable housing area, that has good night life and excellent communications with the City. Might not be ideal for families looking for top quality schooling and after school activities but that is a trade off.

The area will continue to be 'gentrified' as the arrival of the Tube is viewed by many as good investment potential and property prices are starting to increase accordingly. Things haven't got silly yet but it's only a mater of time. A 3 bed house was recently sold on Patterson Road after being offered for £315K. Where else in London could you get a similar property with 30 mile views, good amenities and 5 minutes from the station for the same price?

I recommend the place but then I'm going to say that as it's my favorite part of London.

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 03:02 PM

Bought a 2 bed flat here in 2000 and haven't looked back. Bought a family house on the (cheaper) Gipsy Road side of the triangle this year and intend to stay as long as I can although its a fair point that schools a pretty poor

Ups

Good transport for a non tube area
Some good bars and restaraunts that offer quality without the pretension
Plenty of green space
Not so many Fashionista's as Brixton/East Dulwich and a decent community atmosphere once you get under the skin of the place
Views that you don't tire of
People who still respond to openess and pleasantry


Downs

Fragmented borough boundaries that lead to neglected areas and little joined up thinking
The usual youth problems although I've got to say that it falls into the low level ASBO territory rather than the "random shooting" territory that seems to have crept into Streatham and parts of West Norwood
A bit of kicking out time trouble but very low level compared to surrounding areas

All in all I'd say the area compares pretty well with Streatham. I don't have a direct comparitor but what I will say that my daily stress levels fell by a mile when I moved from the top end of Brixton Hill to CP.

You don't say how old you are or whether you have kids but , IMO, you could do alot worse than CP. As a "starting again" jump off point I think it's great. There's certainly enough to explore and enjoy for at least two years before you feel you really know the area and the large number of 1/2 bedroom flats (I suspect) will mean a fair sprinkling of 30/40's singletons as well as the DINKY'S

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 03:08 PM

CP has a real village feeling, and I think it's something to do with being on the top of a hill.

Views are good, but the downside of that is that you can get some pretty cold winds in winter, especially when they are from the east.

Transport's on a par with most of south London, likewise the crime, in my opinion. The triangle with it's pubs and restaurants is very good, but it's that village feeling that makes it for me.

I like the area a lot.

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 04:29 PM

If you want to know why so many people love living here go and stand at the top of the Park and look out across views that spread out over 10-20 miles. And then try one of the bars and restaurants. Moved here from Guildford 5+ years and have never looked back.

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 11:18 PM

So, is this a good move?

Depends what your lifestyle requires. If you need to be close to work in central london, then we're further out than some other locations. If you're after decent local nightlife for the cost of an extra 20mins/day commuting time though then this is the place...

What's the place really like?


Having a read through the threads on this site will give you the best impression of life here. Or come a spend some time in CP. Check out the bars, walk the streets, laze around in the park.... B) We're blighted by a bit of car crime and infuriated by some local authorities :angry: but by and large I think it's a great place to live.

What's it like safety wise?

Crime is everywhere. Take all the usual precautions and you should be ok. :unsure:

And what's travel like (I tend to use buses most of the time)?


Again, depends where you're going. I find any bus going through Tulse Hill gets stuck in traffic, but we're spoilt for choice. And there's the tube on the way. Oh, and the tram extension. :)

Oh, and what's the deal about using the running track in the park? Is there a club there?

There is a running club there but I can't remember the name of it! Call the centre and they'll tell you. I think you can use the track for a couple of quid though.

And... what sort of ages are the majority of peeps? Is it a good mix or will I be too old at 30?!


Age is a state of mind.... :wacko:

Seriously, this place is built for people in their late 20s upwards. I'm 30 and want to stay for many, many years.
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 07:03 AM

I grew up in the SE19 area and have seen parts of it change, some of which for the better.

I think as far as South East London goes, it's an excellent place to live with decent connections into both Central London, to the Coast and fairly close to some pleasant countryside.
I like the triangle and its community feel. I like its shops and pubs and restaurants and despite the numerous frustrations felt, I think the overwhelming sense (on this forum) is of great affection for the area.

As long as me and mine stay in London we'll be in SE19.
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In terms of crime, as Elmo says, it's standard for this corner of London. Keep your wits about you as always in London.

What keeps me interested in the local area is that it has maintaned a measure of character.

Would I raise kids here? Yes if I could afford a reasonable-sized property when required. However, schools aren't fantastic or so I am told.
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 08:08 AM

School performances are very poor round ere in general consider yourself told Wilf !

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Posted 25 July 2006 - 09:20 AM

I now consider myself very much told and I shall be remaining told.

The other thing to say about this area is that there is lots of green space and it's quite leafy on the whole.

Edited by Uncle Wilf, 25 July 2006 - 09:20 AM.

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Posted 25 July 2006 - 10:55 AM

If you live in Bromley Borough, you have the opportunity to send them to the "nice" schools further out of town... My wife teaches in a local school and they're not all bad... just erm... challenging! :D
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 10:59 AM

Mrs Uncle Wilf also now works in a school (in Southwark)...

In one sense it's very easy to criticise schools working in very difficult corners of London but it's fair to say we're not spoilt for choice in terms of quality in our particular corner of London.

However, I am an ex-Stanley boy and it didn't do me no harm, do you get me? :ph34r:
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