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[Fang]

C Palace used to have 2 cinemas - both in Church Road - one where the Gala Bingo now is and one where the closed car showroom is - currently boarded up and painted with flourescent street art (c/o Dylan I think!). That would be an ideal location for a cinema in my view and would help to regenerate Church Road and act as an "anchor" to drag people round from the other sides of the triangle. Perhaps it could double as a playhouse or art studio to harness local talent. I guess there will be some increased traffic but all in all it would be a good thing for the area in my opinion and offer something new. However I think the building has already been granted planning permission for a residential development??

There is apparently a major asbestos problem with that building.

[Spoon]

I'm concerned we're going to miss a post or repeat ourselves in our efforts to spark action because there is already a "cinema" thread. Because there was already a relevant thread, I posted the same information as Sunray has here, in that one.

http://www.virtualno...amp;#entry67473

It contains the gazumping question on church group vs. cinema and all the old info about the D2 buildings we already have on that stretch.

Could the mods please merge this cinema thread into the existing discussion? Then move the lot into "News" if you think it would benefit. Either way, please could we return it to one thread on the topic?

Update: the Croydon Advertiser has been slow to react. The Guardian (local) only heard about it today. Sunray is in touch, or at the very least trying to be, with local leaders, which is great and the Film Soc is now aware, thanks to VN.

Keep it coming!

[katsku]

What's "gazump" mean? Is it current English or some jargon I'm not fluent in?

[gekko]

Hi Spoon,

It's probably a bit difficult now to merge them as two conversations have been going on side by side. When you merge it sorts by date order so the conversation would then be all over the place.

I'm happy to close one of the threads though if that would help, just let me know which you'd prefer to keep open.

Sorry, I have been aware that there are two concurrent threads but we've been rather pre-occupied with some of the more contentious threads for the past two weeks! For this reason I hadn't really got round to dealing with this.

[Spoon]

Gazump means to pull out of a sale in order to accept a later, better offer or to cause said situation to occur by making the better offer.

Hi Gekko. Thanks, I know you're kept busy on here. As the conversation in this new thread is shorter, I would propose putting it into the original "cinema" thread and temporarily moving the original from Entertainment to the News section while the Gala building discussion is current. That way everyone's input is in one place.

Hope that's not a huge job.

[belo]

This thread has got me so excited! I love the Picture House/Ritzy. My husband and myself have long dreamed of a development as such in the old Bingo Hall. With a Saturday morning kids club, watch with babies screenings, yummy cakes.... PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.

[martee]

Yes please!

[misspoddy]

We're all going crazy about the idea it's a Picturehouse/Ritzy, but we haven't got a clue, do we? Or did I miss something? I am a Ritzy member for many years now and I guess everybody's favourite would be a Picturehouse, but will we all be equally excited about another one? Odeon? Vue? Curzon? etc... If they are looking to refurbish an existing place they're obviously not planing a huge Multiplex, which is a good thing, but there is not only Picturehouse....

[Norwood lad]

Although we are missing the simple point that the most viable spot for a cinema has been bought by a church (or is at least in the process).

As I said in the other thread if more people were aware that a cinema was going to move into the area it might galvanise the cinema chain. Perhaps a straw poll outside Sainsbury might be worthwhile. It might make them try again with a higher bid for the bingo hall.

I don't know if it would be worth contacting Bromley council that a cinema here would be more of a benefit to the area than another church as its a private sale .
The same can be said for contacting whoever owns gala bingo but I doubt they are bothered who takes over so long as they get maximum £££ for the site.

[Ronae]

There is a huge space next to Big Yello Storage on kinghts hill in West Norwood. Would love a cinema in the area

[Silver]

Why not a multiplex ? A change and choice of films every week. A few years ago we were promised a sparkling new leisure complx and multiplex on the top palace site. after a lot of trouble from bussed in crusties the idea was dropped. And guess what the very same sponsers of this rabble are now campaigning for a liesure complex on the very same site ! Some crank as put a lump of metal there as a signpost to buiding a ne Crystal Palace. Saints preserve us !

It is quite obvious to those with even a very light grasp of english that nobody here is campaigning or even asking for a multiplex. The sparkling new leisure centre that you write about did in fact include twelve pubs, a huge night club and parking for 900 cars on the roof! The crusties that you refer to were normal concerned young people who have since gone on to work in citizens advice offices, as teachers and other upstanding proffessions. Many were local and not bussed in and many local people were happy to see the back of the scheme. If that had not been the case, it would have gone ahead.

I understand that the sponsers of the scheme (if by that you mean the instigators ) were simply local people who felt that the only building that should be allowed on the site was the Crystal Palace. It is therefore not surprising that they are now striving to build a new new Crystal Palace.

As for the 'crank' that put a lump of metal on the top site, it is not a lump of metal, it is a corner of the Crystal Palace put there to remind visitors of the grand heritage that once graced the site. Some years ago the 'crank' approached a foundry the other end of the country. They had the original casts from the Crystal Palace and so the 'crank' had new columns cast. The 'crank ' then persuaded the guys at a canal museum to transport the columns down the canal to Surrey Quays on the President barge. There are marvelous pictures of the barge steaming in with its precious cargo.

The 'crank' then persuaded Carters Steam Fair to transport the columns to Dulwich in a steam lorry at two miles an hour. The 'crank' then arranged for them to be moved to Crystal Palace Park. The 'crank' then sat on the LDA's Westaway process for five hours every month for years and persuaded them to build the foundations. About a year later the 'crank got planbning permission for the corner and persuaded the LDA to pay to put it up. Realising that the columns in question would need painting before they were erected, the 'crank' persuaded some young people to paint them although actually they did not need persuading realising as they did that far from being a crank, he was a man who had followed and realised his dream showing vision, determination, sincerity and patience. The lump of metal is a symbol of what can be achieved with belief and help from others.

To my mind this man has shown noble qualities . He was a shining example to our youth. The same can't be said of those who would make quick derogatory remarks about a 'crank' and malign the gallant band of youngsters who spent a very hard year living on the site to protect it from pure commercialism.

[Axean]

Dogs, Cats and now a posting about the multiplex. If I didn't know better I'd think people were deliberately setting out to create heated debates on this board.

Sivler, I suggest you have a look at dowroons previous posts (link)

[Silver]

I have read through again and can't find where the info that the BIngo is to become a church comes from. Can someone help please.

[filmbuffy]

[quote name='Axean' date='Jun 8 2009, 09:48 PM' post='67687']
Dogs, Cats and now a posting about the multiplex. If I didn't know better I'd think people were deliberately setting out to create heated debates on this board.

:-) I guess theres a lot of frustration out there. how bout a seperate thread entitled " to disagree or not to disagree? "

[Spoon]

Discussions have moved on a bit - press, etc.

I see the two threads are still causing problems. Please see the other one if you don't understand any references made to "other posts" etc in this one.

Which council does the Gala building plot come under?