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#16 Local

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 05:04 PM

Here is a summary of the response made to Croydon's Core Strategy by the Crystal Palace Triangle planning group. The full response runs to eight pages.

Summary
37. The Crystal Palace Triangle Planning Group welcomes the identification in the Issues and Options report of Upper Norwood as a distinctive ‘place’.
38. No strategy for the Upper Norwood hilltop would be complete without consideration of these three elements: the broader residential area, town centre and park. No strategy for Upper Norwood would be achievable without the collaboration of the five borough councils.
39. The Core Strategy should be seeking a more equal balance between workplace jobs and the resident workforce.
40. The character of Crystal Palace centre and the wider Upper Norwood area is mainly its Victorian housing stock and green areas. Further erosion of this will inevitably affect quality of life for local residents.
41. We would like clarification of the benefits that would conferred by raising Crystal Palace Triangle to town centre level within the Croydon hierarchy.
42. We look to the restoration of a dedicated town centre manager for Crystal Palace.
43. The five boroughs and the Greater London Authority acting together should take a comprehensive view of the planning needs of the entire town centre.
44. Restoration of the cinema could be the catalyst for regeneration, providing a focus and anchor for a range of smaller enterprises within the centre.
45. The remaining original shop fronts should be more rigorously defended.
46. Traders and residents are willing to work with you and neighbouring boroughs on a design statement setting out our expectations for new development and refurbishment of buildings and spaces in the area.
47. Crime should be tackled by coordination between the licensing and planning arms of Croydon council, and cooperation between Croydon and Lambeth.
48. CCTV cameras should be used to target crime on the streets.
49. Regeneration of the Triangle should be encouraged with a mix of businesses and services, addressing the empty premises but not building more premises of the type already provided in abundance.
50. The one-way system has contributed to the closure of shops and cafés dependent on passing trade that were already under economic pressure, and further traffic calming measures are needed.
51. CPTPG would welcome an Action Area Plan plus a Supplementary Planning Document for the centre setting out design guidance.
52. It is essential that the adjacent boroughs and in particular Lambeth and Bromley sign up and agree what Croydon is trying to achieve, and joint working should be started without delay.
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Posted 07 February 2010 - 05:21 PM

Thanks to Axean, the full document is available here (I hope).

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 09:42 PM

Now I've discovered this new toy, there's no holding me back.
So here is a summary of the CPT planning group response to consultation on the draft replacement London Plan.
This was prepared after the response to the Croydon Core Strategy, so you may notice some refinement of ideas from the previous document.

Summary

  • The Crystal Palace Triangle Planning Group welcomes the recognition in the DRLP of the need for London borough councils to collaborate on planning policy, development control and implementation in their areas, and the Group will encourage the boroughs to prepare local development documents to carry London Plan policies forward.
  • Collaboration is essential not only within but also between the Mayoral subregions. No strategy for the Crystal Palace district centre and the Upper Norwood hilltop would be achievable without the collaboration of the five borough councils, which variously sit in outer south, central inner and inner east London.
  • Crystal Palace Park should be numbered and listed in the key to Map 2.8 as part of the strategic network of open spaces.
  • The London Plan should be seeking a more equal local balance at borough level between workplace jobs and the resident workforce. Improvements should be made to transport infrastructure to help journeys within outer London, including the Croydon tram extension.
  • The character of the wider Upper Norwood area lies in its Victorian housing stock and green areas. Further erosion of this will inevitably affect quality of life for local residents. Overdevelopment should be avoided, both in the town centre and in the surrounding residential area.
  • The five boroughs and the Greater London Authority acting together should take a comprehensive view of the planning needs of the entire town centre, including regeneration. Restoration of the cinema could be the catalyst for regeneration, providing a focus and anchor for a range of smaller enterprises within the centre.
  • We agree with the identification of Crystal Palace district centre having a medium growth policy direction.
  • Line 93 of Table A2.1 should be amended to include the Bromley part and to recognise that Crystal Palace district centre is in need of regeneration, and to show Crystal Palace having a strategic cluster of night time activity with specialist provision of more than local importance.
  • The one-way system has contributed to the closure of shops and cafés dependent on passing trade that were already under economic pressure; Transport for London and the borough councils need to collaborate on further traffic calming and pedestrian safety measures.
  • GLA should encourage the adjacent boroughs to work with traders and residents on an action area plan for cultural, social and economic regeneration, plus a supplementary planning document for the centre setting out design guidance for refurbishment of buildings and open spaces, restoration and redevelopment.

And here is the full CPT planning group response to the draft replacement London Plan.
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Posted 07 February 2010 - 10:36 PM

Yee-ha

You're doing excellent work Local.

Just one thing - could you give a preparation or submission date for each one? (No dates on the documents themselves)

Edited by QueensPudding, 07 February 2010 - 10:36 PM.


#20 Local

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 11:15 PM

could you give a preparation or submission date for each one?

It was all last-minute stuff QP (and still full of grammatical errors as well as not being dated): response to Croydon Core Strategy finalised and submitted by email 31 December 2009; response to consultation draft replacement London Plan finalised and submitted by email 12 January 2010.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 11:31 AM

The next stage of Croydon's Core Strategy is launched today.

Please see below for full details.

But note there's an event at the Phoenix Community Centre on 13 March 2010
and also that the consultation closes on 21 March 2010.

Apologies for the formatting....

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Towards a Preferred Core Strategy – Further Regulation 25 Consultation Report

The second stage of consultation on Croydon’s emerging Core Strategy is now live. This consultation gives people the chance to comment on the planning policy that sets out how Croydon should develop over the next 15 to 20 years. The report looks at what, where and how much new development should take place in the different Places of Croydon to help achieve the long-term vision for the Borough. The full document can be downloaded in PDF form from the LDF consultation portal (consultation portal), representations can be drafted, saved and submitted through the portal and we would encourage its use as it is the quickest way in which we can process your comments and it saves on paper.

The formal consultation period for the Core Strategy runs from the 8th February until the 21st March. As local experts, your views are incredibly important, so please do get involved, either at your local event, or by one of the following methods:

Website: www.croydon.gov.uk/corestrategy
Email: ldf@croydon.gov.uk
Consultation portal: http://consult.croydon.gov.uk
Facebook group: Search for “Croydon – Third City”
Post: Policy and strategy, North-west quadrant, 18th floor, Taberner House, Park Lane, Croydon CR9 1JT
Telephone: 020 8407 1385

During the formal consultation period there will be a series for four events – open from 10am to 3.30pm – scheduled to give visitors the opportunity to look at plans, and comment on, or get involved in discussions about, the Core Strategy’s proposals:

27 February Maple Room, Fairfield Halls, Park Lane
6 March Christchurch Hall, Brighton Road, Purley
13 March Phoenix Community Centre, Westow Street, Upper Norwood
20 March Selsdon Hall, Addington Road, Selsdon

The informal, drop-in nature of the events means that, even if you have only 10 minutes to spare, you can get involved.

You can access the Core Strategy and all its supporting documentation online at www.croydon.gov.uk/corestrategy and hard copies are will be available at the borough’s libraries and Access Croydon, Taberner House.



Kind Regards

David Carlisle
Assistant Planner


Policy & Strategy Team
Planning, Regeneration & Conservation Department
Taberner House
Park Lane Croydon
CR9 1JT
Team Number: 020 8407 1385Direct Line: 020 8726 6000 ext. 62153
Web: http://www.croydon.g...andregeneration

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:01 PM

Thanks for all that info QP and Local. It's a pretty hefty document to wade through but I did note the following welcome statement:-

"The north of the borough, the ‘railway suburbs’, will be a patchwork of communities and places, some requiring heritage-led enhancement plans, others more renewal and regeneration and others, conservation.
A clear vision for Crystal Palace and its surrounding areas are key to the future success of the places in north."

Apparently the north of the borough is deemed to be the most deprived.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:14 PM

Towards a Preferred Core Strategy – Further Regulation 25 Consultation Report

The second stage of consultation on Croydon’s emerging Core Strategy is now live. This consultation gives people the chance to comment on the planning policy that sets out how Croydon should develop over the next 15 to 20 years. The report looks at what, where and how much new development should take place in the different Places of Croydon to help achieve the long-term vision for the Borough. The full document can be downloaded in PDF form from the LDF consultation portal (consultation portal), representations can be drafted, saved and submitted through the portal and we would encourage its use as it is the quickest way in which we can process your comments and it saves on paper.

The formal consultation period for the Core Strategy runs from the 8th February until the 21st March. As local experts, your views are incredibly important, so please do get involved, either at your local event, or by one of the following methods:

Website: www.croydon.gov.uk/corestrategy
Email: ldf@croydon.gov.uk
Consultation portal: http://consult.croydon.gov.uk
Facebook group: Search for “Croydon – Third City”
Post: Policy and strategy, North-west quadrant, 18th floor, Taberner House, Park Lane, Croydon CR9 1JT
Telephone: 020 8407 1385

During the formal consultation period there will be a series for four events – open from 10am to 3.30pm – scheduled to give visitors the opportunity to look at plans, and comment on, or get involved in discussions about, the Core Strategy’s proposals:

27 February Maple Room, Fairfield Halls, Park Lane
6 March Christchurch Hall, Brighton Road, Purley
13 March Phoenix Community Centre, Westow Street, Upper Norwood
20 March Selsdon Hall, Addington Road, Selsdon

The informal, drop-in nature of the events means that, even if you have only 10 minutes to spare, you can get involved.

You can access the Core Strategy and all its supporting documentation online at www.croydon.gov.uk/corestrategy and hard copies are will be available at the borough’s libraries and Access Croydon, Taberner House.



I am baffled by Croydon's consultation strategy = Drop in between 10:00hrs and 15.30Hrs - when are traders and working residents meant to drop in? This goes against all the aims of community involvement in the planning system. Are they going to any other forums to discuss their preferred options?

Edited by charlie, 08 February 2010 - 12:15 PM.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:16 PM

Is that a weekday or weekend Charlie?

I too was a little surprised by the hours (had expected it to be evening).

Is this something that can be addressed with Croydon?

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:19 PM

Is that a weekday or weekend Charlie?

I too was a little surprised by the hours (had expected it to be evening).

Is this something that can be addressed with Croydon?



I was just checking my diary - it is infact a Saturday so all is forgiven Croydon - although from my experience of running conultation events I would have expected a number of evening sessions too because people do work and trade on a Saturday.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 10:08 PM

I was just checking my diary - it is infact a Saturday so all is forgiven Croydon - although from my experience of running conultation events I would have expected a number of evening sessions too because people do work and trade on a Saturday.


So it's basically a roadshow with displays, rather than meeting-stylee, and people are being encourage to submit comments online rather than paper/at the event. I suppose people can pop in for 10mins if they're in the vicinity.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 09:53 AM

See The Guardian this morning. Perhaps we should offer to operate a community planning service for Crystal Palace.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 07:12 PM

My initial feeling with this whole process is unfortunately that I simply don't feel like I'm part of Croydon. Technically I am, but emotionally I feel the Upper Norwood area has less in common with the rest of Croydon than it does with nearby parts of other boroughs. For me, the case for a council centered on this area would be quite strong, although I don't see any popular revolution managing to establish one in a hurry :-) But that lack of identity with Croydon, if shared by significant numbers of residents, is actually an impediment to their ability to assist with regeneration of the area. Does anyone else feel like this?

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 08:41 PM

My initial feeling with this whole process is unfortunately that I simply don't feel like I'm part of Croydon. Technically I am, but emotionally I feel the Upper Norwood area has less in common with the rest of Croydon than it does with nearby parts of other boroughs. For me, the case for a council centered on this area would be quite strong, although I don't see any popular revolution managing to establish one in a hurry :-) But that lack of identity with Croydon, if shared by significant numbers of residents, is actually an impediment to their ability to assist with regeneration of the area. Does anyone else feel like this?


I've heard that jamesl might be interested in UDI for the Palace. Would two be enough for a popular revolution? Where do we sign? And what would we call it? B)

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 11:16 PM

I've heard that jamesl might be interested in UDI for the Palace. Would two be enough for a popular revolution? Where do we sign? And what would we call it? B)


Sounds good to me, if Croydon are indifferent to CP you could easily multiply that by a hundred to get to the level of indifference shown by Bromley LB.
They give the impression they'd cut us loose at the drop of a hat, given half a chance.
Some of the above probably isn't true