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#1 Pete99

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 06:25 PM

We've just this weekend moved into Upper Norwood, and I've got to say it's a bit of a mystery to me. We were in Camberwell and then Herne Hill and never really came out here, but fell in love with a house and sort of took it from there.

So.... any Upper Norwood experts able to tell me what joys await me? I know West Norwood and Crystal Palace have a lot going on, but nothing much seems to be mentioned about Upper Norwood. Is it just a sort of midway point with residential streets and some nice outdoor space, or is there much in the way of shops/pubs/anything?

We're just off Biggin Hill and it feels much more suburban than I'm used to. Will we have to travel elsewhere for meals and/or evenings out?

Thanks.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:26 PM

Hi Pete99,
Welcome to the area!
Firstly, just to clear up a quick point, Upper Norwood and Crystal Palace are in fact the same area, Upper Norwood being the official name and Crystal Palace is just another name for the same area gained from a nickname of the large glass exhibition centre that once stood on the top of the park.
I know the part that you have moved to, which is near Crown point, and that is quite residential compared to the areas nearer to the triangle of Crystal Palace (or upper norwood, even).
I don't think that there are that many Pubs or restaurants too near to Biggin Hill so would definately recommend the triangle area.
Can't be too bad, as it was recently listed as number 5 in the 'Lonely Planet guide to the worlds greatest little known neighbourhoods' (post previously discovered on this forum http://www.lonelypla...-articles/61160 )
West Norwood also has alot going on but I don't know the area too well.

Edited by Hermit, 29 August 2010 - 07:27 PM.


#3 James

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 09:13 PM

That area around Crown Point is also known as "Norwood New Town"

I think that due to the geography you'll probably find it easier to connect with the street scene in Norbury and Streatham High Road, or if you can hitch the right bus, down to South Norwood or West Norwood. Crown Point to the Triangle isn't a leisurely walk because whichever way you go there's a steep hill to walk up!

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 06:55 AM

We've just this weekend moved into Upper Norwood, and I've got to say it's a bit of a mystery to me. We were in Camberwell and then Herne Hill and never really came out here, but fell in love with a house and sort of took it from there.

So.... any Upper Norwood experts able to tell me what joys await me? I know West Norwood and Crystal Palace have a lot going on, but nothing much seems to be mentioned about Upper Norwood. Is it just a sort of midway point with residential streets and some nice outdoor space, or is there much in the way of shops/pubs/anything?

We're just off Biggin Hill and it feels much more suburban than I'm used to. Will we have to travel elsewhere for meals and/or evenings out?

Thanks.


Hey, welcome to the area. get out and roam to the Triangle where you will find some tasty restaurants and cafes, vintage clothes and furniture, Bigger Picture Gallery, Crystal Palace park and dinosaurs, Bookseller Crow independent book shop, independent clothes shops, bike shops, ethnic cafes and restaurants. First thing to notice is the lack of chain stores and restaurants. Then note the smiling and welcoming residents. Enjoy you new home.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:50 AM

I think that due to the geography you'll probably find it easier to connect with the street scene in Norbury and Streatham High Road, or if you can hitch the right bus, down to South Norwood or West Norwood. Crown Point to the Triangle isn't a leisurely walk because whichever way you go there's a steep hill to walk up!


if you're happy to get the bus then the 417 will take you to the triangle, and the 432 turns into central hill and goes up to the triangle at the bottom of the hill at Elder Road

Depending on how you feel about the hill then your nearest decent boozer will be The Park on Elder Road

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:50 AM

I think it would be a bit of a help to explain what the triangle really is! The triangle pete is Westow Hill, Westow Street and Church Road. You'll find allsorts of bars, pubs and restaurants to suit all palates here. Welcome

#7 bawheid

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 05:57 PM

Welcome to Upper Norwood! I live at the other end of Beulah Hill and my calf muscles have definitely benefited from the unavoidable hill walking.
Crystal Palace is where you're probably gonna do most of your local shopping and socialising but if you can't face the hill and just fancy a local drink then the Conquering Hero pub is a nice old fashioned local boozer, very welcoming staff.
Another local attraction you should discover is Norwood Grove, a really nice park that's on the Capital Ring walking route.
Hope you enjoy the neighbourhood!

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:58 PM

I think the Estate Agent might have been lathering it a bit by calling that bit Upper Norwood - its kind of mid point between C Palace, Norbury and West Norwood - nearest bus to your road is the 249 which goes along Beualah then Church Road - good for the White Hart corner - other buses are a few mins walk from Biggin Hill but slightly quicker on the Journey - well at least a shorter route (central hill can be clogged)

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 10:03 AM

further to 'upper norwood/crystal palace being the same'. maybe that needs slightly more info' for a non-londoner? in 1851 a great exhibition of art and craft treasure from around the world opened in hyde park. this was housed in a building of the grandest scale. the building consisted mainly of glass was dubbed 'the crystal palace' by punch magazine. following its enormous success the building was dismantled and re-erected on the brow of 'sydenham hill'. thus the area became known as crystal palace, after the building, but is in fact upper norwood, and literature at the time described the crystal palace' being at sydenham!

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 11:15 AM

further to 'upper norwood/crystal palace being the same'. maybe that needs slightly more info' for a non-londoner? in 1851 a great exhibition of art and craft treasure from around the world opened in hyde park. this was housed in a building of the grandest scale. the building consisted mainly of glass was dubbed 'the crystal palace' by punch magazine. following its enormous success the building was dismantled and re-erected on the brow of 'sydenham hill'. thus the area became known as crystal palace, after the building, but is in fact upper norwood, and literature at the time described the crystal palace' being at sydenham!


The Crystal Palace was I believe in Penge but people not liking the word Penge (Penge Place)preferred to say it was in Sydenham.

The Triangle has some good eating places but If you do connect with Norbury (which is quite close to you) try Mirch Masala near Norbury Station - a fine indian restaurant.

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 11:47 AM

I can second that the Mirch Masala is a 1st class establishment & has been trading for many a year now !

But i would class this as norbury rather than upper norwood but nothing wrong in that.
Your obviously mistaken me with someone who gives a fig

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 04:11 PM

thanks silver. 'wiki' give both penge place and sydenham hill as the site for the crystal palace, so it sounds even more confusing.

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 05:45 PM

thanks silver. 'wiki' give both penge place and sydenham hill as the site for the crystal palace, so it sounds even more confusing.


Further confusion - Mayo Park was called Sydenham Recreation Ground. Wiki does say that the Palace was relocated into Sydenham Park but we know that it was definately called Penge Place so maybe the theory of the name being changed from Penge to Sydenham because it sounded better was correct.

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In 1851 the Great Exhibition in Hyde Park was housed in an immense glass building, called the Crystal Palace. In 1854 the building was bought by a private company, dismantled and re-erected in Sydenham Park (Now called Crystal Palace Park). Exhibitions, concerts, conferences and sporting events were held at the Crystal Palace (until it burned down in 1936), and Sydenham became a fashionable area; many new houses were built. They could be supplied with gas from the Crystal Palace and District Gas Company's works at Bell Green, which continued in production until 1969. A large store now occupies part of the site.

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 06:54 PM

A large store now occupies part of the site.


Just for the avoidance of doubt, Wikipedia is referring to the site of the gasworks, not the hilltop part of Crystal Palace Park which, thanks to the efforts of the campaigners against the Multiplex proposals of the late 1990s, remains wonderfully free of large-scale commercial development.
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Posted 01 September 2010 - 06:56 AM

As I understand it, when Paxton's giant conservatory housing the Great Exhibition of 1851 was moved from its temporary site in Hyde Park, a permanent location was found in the private grounds known as Penge Place on Sydenham Hill, together with some adjoining property. The Crystal Palace Park was created in this area, with lakes fountains and landscaped areas below and the enlarged Palace at the top end.